EFI. Who's done it?

[MtyMous]

Just what it sounds like. I'm getting more and more interested in this idea and thinking that I might pop this kit onto Tink in the near future.






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzU9QBAr1kc

http://www.twinkam.co.uk/shop/article_SC208B.004/A-Series-5-Port-Engine-Management-Kit.html?sessid=eXbbcj1nP1S35Sr4B06vOomqokdyRve93HSjigwhLVQDOsrfr7yaZbQ19PRocDcR&shop_param=cid%3D16%26aid%3DSC208B.004%26

[Willie_B]

That sure looks sweet. 4.gif
If you get serious let me know and maybe we can see if they will make a deal for 2 systems at the same time.

[Merlin]

I have been looking at the Typhoon system from SC and I have not seen any reason why it would be a bad system. There are a few features built into the Typhoon system that dont come with the basic EFI kit, so there is always room to grow.

Just be advised that the EFI fuel tanks are a little expensive. Be prepared to either fork out for one or devise a retrofit.

[MtyMous]

Not 100% on it yet. I'm sitting at about 75%. Been doing a lot of research. The biggest hangup is I've never had to map anything like this myself. Some will say I'm a kid, but I have a lot of experience tuning carbs and none with EFI. Sort of backwards for my generation. But I want to learn it. And it seems like it will end up being a better commuter car setup which is what I've been building to the whole time. Most people say that it's given them a lot of good gains throughout the power band and especially in the lower register. The downside is I'll need to do a dyno tune run, I'll need to figure out how to run a few other systems like a fuel return, regulator, ECU, electronic ignition, etc.

I already have an LC1 wideband and a blank slate to work with. The problem is money. haha. Isn't it always?

The only bonus is that I'm looking to sell a few parts that I won't need as well. My great condition 7.5 gal tank, my brand new 123 dizzy, my carbs, etc.

[Mudhen]

Interested in anything you find out as well...was always a carb only guy until I read 'The Last Works Minis' and they were all injected.

Good luck!

[94touring]

That is badass.  I want that on my truck now. 

[Merlin]

Dyno tuning is not a must as I have tuned my old car on the street. The dyno will get the last bit of power out, but tuning with the wideband and a datalogger is nearly as good. If you know how to tune a carb, then you should be able to pick this up and run with it.

Any though on going to a 7 port head to make the fueling easier?

[MtyMous]

For my purposes (fun street car) I don't think I'll get enough benefit from the cost of a 7 port setup.

[Mudhen]

Re-reading the Works Mini book again the other night while waiting for soccer practice to end...

The 1997 car had a Swiftune built, multipoint injection system...producing 136hp at a max rev of 8200rpm.  What surprised me more than the power was that it came from 1293cc!

And at only 8k gbp cheap, too!  :D

[MtyMous]

$8k? Where do I sign up?!

[Mudhen]

$8k? Where do I sign up?!

$12k....15 years ago.

http://www.swiftune.com/

You need that.   4.gif

I just want the 6spd dog box.   77.gif

[tmsmini]

I know this is an old thread, but I am working on a couple of EFI variations.
One using the SC kit and another using a Microsquirt-based system. Progress is very slow, but when I have an update I will start a thread.
Terry

[Merlin]

I think that this thread should be dug up anyway.

I have been looking into the Holly EFI system. It comes as a universal kit and looks the part. It also has quite a bit of support over here as well, which is the downfall of all of the  brit ones on the market. Its not plug and play, but it is close enough especially at $1600.

Anyone else going a different way? I have always liked the idea of the mega/microsquirt units, just never had the patience for putting one together.

[tmsmini]

The main issue is the five port head. The SC kit is basically an electronically controlled carburetor. The Micro/Mega squirt options use specific code to manage the siamesed inlets. For my Microsquirt based system I will be using the MPi inlet and throttle body.

I am not looking at this to extract large power gains from the old A series, just gain smooth and consistent running.
Terry

I have some engines to experiment with:

[MtyMous]

You engine hoarding SOB. Haha.

I should probably mention that I have in fact decided to get the SC 5 port kit. It will be fitted to my 1380 with Kent 286 and built head ( some other goodies in there, too). And I will obviously keep you guys posted when I get to the point of fitting and running. Probably won't be in the next couple months though. Obviously more info will be in my build thread as updates roll in.

[tmsmini]

Updating this with another photo:


almost ready to start
Terry

[MtyMous]

That's awesome, Terry. Is that the SC 5 port kit? I'm jealous. Mine will be on order here soon after I figure out which head I want for my 1380. Oh yeah... and find the scratch. haha

[tmsmini]

Yes, dredging up the old thread. It is the SC 5 port for the MPi adapted to fit in the MK I body.
A few more items to get to 7 and it can be run. The engine was broken in before, but the installation needs to be tested. Nick at 7 Restoration did most of the work on it including all the body work and now completing the engine install.

Terry

[John Gervais]

That looks like a very 'clean' installation!  Bravo!

[tmsmini]

The cleanliness credit goes to Nick.
At this point I am ready to get it on the road again.

[MtyMous]

Dang. I was hoping you were going to break in the engine with the fuelie setup so I could copy your tactics. haha. I'm planning to have mine broken in with the fuel injection. I don't want to deal with running a different setup, but I need to find the best way to do it. I want a reliable motor, even if it's inconvenient.

[MiniDave]

MtyMous, I have an FI tank to sell, looks brandy new inside and out if you need it.

[MtyMous]

Dave, I do need a tank. I've got a carb tank that is perfect. I was going to weld a bung onto it to receive the fuel return. Shoot me an email with some pics and details. (Texasgy524 at hotmail)

[MiniDave]

Will do, tomorrow.....but it looks clean as new, has the sender but not the pump.

[MiniDave]

Email and pics sent, let me know if you need more...