F1 2025

Started by MiniDave, February 19, 2025, 12:31:35 PM

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MiniDave

#25
Miami

As the race started they informed the drivers that rain was coming in 20 laps, expected to be heavy - but it didn't happen....only a few drips. That allowed the teams to run their tire strategies.

With Verstappen on pole it was always expected that there might be fireworks in the first lap, and sure enough....Lando got pushed wide, and slipped back to 4th, Piastri was in the perfect spot and put huge pressure on Verstappen and for once he blinked and Piastri was by and simply drove away.

Piastri has now won 4 of 6 and 3 in a row and has a pretty good lead in the championship - 16 pts  - over his teammate Norris, with Max a further 16 points back.

The constructor's championship is clearly McLaren's to lose and I highly doubt they will lose it with the 105 pt lead they currently have, and no sign of the others being able to catch them on a regular basis, tho a new set of testing regs is on for the wings. Some think it will affect the Big Macs but they don't seem concerned.

There was a lot of action during the race and some great battles thru out the grid. 4 of the rookies were out due to accidents or car failures, but Kimi and Isack are still proving to be the aces of the rookie class this season. Kimi in 6th but Isack just out of the points in 11th. If he could have closed up a tiny bit on Tsunoda he could have had 10th as Yuki had a 5 sec penalty, but Isack finished 5.1 seconds back.

Aston is having a woeful season, I don't know if they simply gave up this season and are counting on Newey to pull them to the front next season, but it's been widely reported that Newey refuses to work on the 2025 car.

LeClerc and the Hamster had some pointed conversations with the pits about their respective strategies, and there will be some intense conversations after the race. Hamster in particular was NOT happy with what they wanted him to do. They switched Hammy forward of LeClerc and sent him after Antonelli but he couldn't catch him, after a number of laps LeClerc's tires came in and they switched them back and LeClerc got within 1 1/2 sec but couldn't get past.

This was a fun one to watch, to see whether Norris could catch and pass his teammate by the end (he couldn't but he sure tried) and by the end the lead Mac was 40 seconds ahead of Russell in third - a clearly dominant race.
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MiniDave

All sorts of things going on in F1 today....

Starting with Alpine, first they brought in Briatore, and Briatore is a fan fave of Colopainto, but Oliver Oakes was hired as team principal, and he liked Doohan, so Jack got the starting nod. His first few races have not been awe inspiring to say the least.....

After Doohan crashed out on the first lap at Miami, and Gasly finished outside the points Oakes "resigned" with immediate effect, and guess who will be taking over? Yep, Briatore....

Guess who's lost his driving job at Alpine? Yep - Doohan. Nothing's been revealed  but the good money is on Colapinto starting the next race in his stead.

Next up: Ferrari. If you watched the race in Miami you got to see the resurgence of Ferrari's famed inability to plan strategy or make changes mid-race to respond to race conditions or other teams.....and of the return of whiny Hamilton when he doesn't get his way. They asked LeClerc to let the Hamster by as they were on different tire strategies, which he did but apparently not quickly enough to suit the Haminator.....after a few caustic remarks. The idea was that with his fresh medium tires he could hunt down and pass Kimi - which it turned out he couldn't do. So Ferrari asked him to switch back - eventually - unfortunately they told LeClerc but neglected to tell the Hammy till the next lap!

McLaren: They seem to have finally shown their hand, finishing 40 seconds ahead of Russel in third in the Mercedes. Norris has clearly lost his #1 status over Piastri, and Oscar seems to have his sights firmly on the driver's championship. He's not so far ahead that an unfortunate race can't swap things around, but he seems to have the momentum at this point having just won his 4th out of the first 6 races.

Lastly, the most fun part of the weekend was watching the full size Lego cars "racing" around the track, and seeing them picking up all the loose lego blocks that were released by some of the more spirited drivers!  :grin:
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MiniDave

Is Horner on his way out after 20 years at the helm of Red Bull? After a number of disasterous things happening with the team, being accused of inappropriate behavior with a female team member, the extension of contract with Perez when he clearly was not performing, the disaster with Lawson and now Yuki not doing much better, the fact that Verstappen has an escape clause in his contract and has been offered a huge contract with Aston Martin - which would reunite him with Newey - and lastly - Oliver Oakes. He was in Bahrain immediately after resigning from Alpine, maybe getting his case before the shareholders?

Lots going on here, word on the street is that the next race's results hold the key to Horner's future with the team.
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Veggivet

What do people think of the mandatory 2-stop experiment at Monaco today? I vote no to its return next year.

MiniDave

#29
Monaco:

I liked it, it added yet another strategy level for all the teams to deal with....had there been a safety car or red flag it could have gone a complete other way.

However, there were some down sides - with teammates slowing the field to benefit the other driver, and some of the teams waiting till the end to take their second (or even first) stops. I dunno, since the cars are so ill suited to this course, they needed to do something to make it less of a parade.

Congrats to Lando, that qually lap was the answer for McLaren to winning the race.

Well done to Charles for giving his all to try and win it without wrecking himself or anyone else.

Nice to hear the anthem done by a live band instead of a recording. I think Mexico is the only other place that does this?

I think the constructor's championship is a done deal, but the driver's is still up in the air, and 2nd in the constructors is a real crapshoot with 5 points covering the next three teams. As they are currently I think Red Bull will drop back as Yuki is not there to help bolster Max's results, where both Mercedes and Ferrari are regularly putting both drivers in the points. Mercedes has had a rough go of it lately, I don't know if they'll get it going again and keep 2nd or if Ferrari will keep coming forward and go by them both. If both Ferraris hadn't been disqualified earlier in the season they would be well into 2nd place right now.

I'll bet Alonslow and Stroll can't wait for '26, and hope that Newey has done his magic AND that Honda brings a beast of an engine.....but, I think it may be wishful thinking as I hear the Mercedes new powerplant is da bomb and Honda is having teething problems.
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Veggivet

The anthem was great! I think the only one I like better is Oh, Canada.

I couldn't figure out Mercedes stategy at all, especially as the race wore on. At least one of the commentators was in the same boat with me, too! Congrats to Lando!

MiniDave

#31
They said had he not gotten the penalty Russel might have made it into the points.

It's clear some teams were really struggling with strategy for this race. But congrats to Hadjar and Lawson for getting well into the points, also both Albon and Sainz and even Ocon for HAAS.....good job to all!

Yuki can't be happy that his former team is regularly finishing better than he is, and since he's not up there scoring with Max, it's killing their chances of finishing well in the constructor's. I expect Ferrari to finish 2nd again, Mercedes third and Red Bull 4th.

On to Spain next weekend!
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tmsmini

Is this real?

Porsche OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED to join F1. F1 and Porsche fans will be excited to see this successful team perform in F1.

Veggivet

Really looking forward to seeing some P-cars on these tracks!

In the meantime, getting psyched for Barcelona... :dance:

MiniDave

Really? Their own team or just as an engine supplier?
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tmsmini

Looks like it is false. This is from earlier this year:

Porsche no longer interested in a Formula 1 comeback
Porsche has officially ruled out a return to Formula 1 after the failure of its partnership with Red Bull. Initially planned for the 2026 season, the German brand is now concentrating on its other motorsport programs, notably endurance racing and Formula E, where it is already enjoying great success.

MiniDave

yeah, I thought this might have been from a couple months ago.....

Now Ford and Red Bull are supposedly collaborating, but the fruits of their association may not show till 2028 or later. I wonder how the tariff situation might impact Ford, since they have considerably lower earnings, profit and sales right now?
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MiniDave

#37
Espana!

OK, well things seem to have begun right where they ended last week in Monaco, with the Big Macs clear of the field, and rumor has it they had the engines turned down today.

Tomorrow in FP3 and qually will show the real pace for all of the teams.

The Hamster still isn't happy with the red car, calls it "undriveable", while Max just seems to be getting on with the program no matter how difficult his car is to control.

A couple of the rookies still shining, Hadjar, Kimi and a bit of a surprise - Lawson. I know he feels like he got a raw deal, but silver lining, he's in a better car now IMHO.....with at least a shot at some points as Hadjar has shown. The Vcarb seems to be much easier to drive and is dead reliable in the right hands. Yuki must be questioning his move.....Just as he gets a car that he can score regularly with, he's now in the belly of the beast.

This might be a decent weekend for the Mercs too.....
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MiniDave

So, Lance Stroll will miss the Spanish GP due to pain in his hand and arm, a fallout from his broken hand and surgery just before the beginning of the 2023 season.

Maybe this is a good way for the team to ease him out and hire someone who can drive? Although he has been better this season, scoring the teams only points as Alonso just hasn't had the luck on his side.
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Veggivet

Alonso has had plenty of luck on his side...unfortunately, it's only been the bad kind!  :banghead:  :021:  I would think that has to change sooner rather than later. Weather looks perfect for today's race!

MiniDave

#40
Wow, what a finish! Tire strategies, safety car, crashes.....

I won't spoil it for those who might still be watching or will watch it later, but a typical race for McLaren with a little bit of edge of the seat at the end.

We'll see what happens but Max did NOT have a good weekend in the end.

Hulkenberg had a fantastic result, where did that come from?

In the points race for the constructors, McLaren are 200 pts ahead of 2nd, which is now Ferrari, courtesy of consistent top 10 finishes by both Ferrari drivers. Mercedes has slipped back to 3rd and Red Bull to 4th, since they have yet to get their 2nd driver into the points.
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Brit_in_TX

Quote from: MiniDave on May 31, 2025, 02:22:34 PMSo, Lance Stroll will miss the Spanish GP due to pain in his hand and arm, a fallout from his broken hand and surgery just before the beginning of the 2023 season.

Maybe this is a good way for the team to ease him out and hire someone who can drive? Although he has been better this season, scoring the teams only points as Alonso just hasn't had the luck on his side.

BBC reported that it was due to a temper tantrum the Stroll manchild had, after getting knocked out qualifying.  The article said he swore at team members and broke equipment. 

There have been reports for years that he is not really committed to his F1 career.  He rarely turns up to events that are optional (F1 movie screening for F1 drivers most recently), on driver parades he stands on his own and looks bored, his media interviews are monosyllabic. 

I know Daddy Stroll owns the team, but at what point do the corporate sponsors demand a committed driver?

Brit_in_TX

After that that stunning tantrum from Max, he needs a race ban. Deliberately driving in to your competitor like that deserves nothing less. It is rare I agree with Nico Rosberg, but Sunday was the day.

MiniDave

Yeah, Max's move on George was pretty blatant, the funny thing is the team decided way after the fact that he didn't need to give the position back after all...they thought the stewards would make him give it back but they said he didn't need too.....so it was all unnecessary.

And I did read today that Jr injured his hand by slamming it down on a desk after qually....most have called for his removal, but daddy bigbux owns the team, and he probably bought it so sonny boy could play race cars, so......next year might be different with Newey and Honda coming aboard. Newey has the huevos to tell Stroll to pound sand, and so will Honda. Could make for some interesting press next season, or maybe even as this one rolls along
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Brit_in_TX

The interesting thing with Stroll Jnr, he has outscored Alonso so far this year! 14 points to 2 points!

MiniDave

Yes, Alonso has not had a good year so far, but he seems to be getting the hang of this years car now, he sure quallies better than Jr does.....

Right now the most interesting part of this year's championships is 2nd place. George looked strong in qually, but can he get a good start off the line and turn it into a victory this weekend?

Max is somehow finding a way to keep his Red Bull in the mix too, but poor Yuki.....

It's been fun to see the rookies run this year too, with occasional flashes of real speed even in some of the cars that regularly finish at the back, as well as Kimi and Isack who are really having a good season.
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MiniDave

#46
Canada:

Well, that was a fun, interesting race! Verstappen keeps himself in the running for the Driver's championship by coming 2nd as the constructors is well and truly out of reach now unless something completely unexpected happens.

Russel converts his pole to a win and Kimi gets his first podium by holding off a hard charging Piastri.

Tire strategies were a major factor here with some going really deep into the race before their first and only stop and others doing a two stop.

Piastri and Norris had a right old battle going right at the end but Norris messed up and hit the pit wall, and Piastri was not able to catch Kimi for the podium despite his best efforts.

Next up, Austria.....and Max fancies his chances there at his home track.

Fun race to watch!
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Veggivet

Is anybody else super stoked for the movie release this Friday??

MiniDave

I plan to go see it at the drive in with the local MINI club, that won't be out till later in July.

I hear it's getting decent reviews, but it might be difficult to watch for those of us who know F1 thoroughly.....

Still, I've enjoyed Winning, LeMans, Grand Prix, Rush, Bobby Deerfield and a few other good racing movies over the years so I think I'll like this one OK too. The one with Stallone tho......that was just pure dreck.
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