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General Discussion => The Lounge => Topic started by: MPlayle on November 10, 2022, 07:46:48 AM

Title: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: MPlayle on November 10, 2022, 07:46:48 AM
Has anyone else noticed the site is loading much slower than normal lately?

I do not get any errors, but it can take up to 20 seconds for a page to load.

Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 10, 2022, 08:24:27 AM
Loading normal for me. And I'm out of the country on questionable wifi and limited 4g.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: MiniDave on November 10, 2022, 09:22:59 AM
Yes......oh so sllloooowwwwwww........

I click on the link to the site and open another browser tab and go do other things while I wait for it to load, then each page is equally slow - mind you I'm on my laptop, not a phone - so maybe the issue is there?
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 10, 2022, 09:26:14 AM
Well it's instantly fast on my end, laptop and phone. I went ahead and optimized the forum database just for the heck of it, as I do occasionally, but otherwise it's probably something on your end.  Or Korea just has really good internet.

Clear your cache and cookies on your devices and see if that helps.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: LarryLebel on November 10, 2022, 10:30:53 AM
Slowwww ... for me.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: cstudep on November 10, 2022, 10:37:14 AM
Pretty slow here too, took nearly 20 seconds from the time I hit reply button to the window popping up. Everywhere else I have gone seems to be working ok, speedtest says I am running about 280Mbps on wireless, which is a tad slow for me but certainly not slow by internet standards.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: MPlayle on November 10, 2022, 10:58:56 AM
I am on a Macbook-Pro laptop.  I use Firefox browser and have it set to clear cookies and Cache every time I close the browser.

I can start fresh and it will be slow to navigate anywhere on this site.  All other sites load at normally expected speeds.

The last few days it has been much slower than normal for this site - still is even now.

Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: skmini on November 10, 2022, 02:15:10 PM
Slow for me too, at home on the wired connection or on the phone.  Ping'ing restorationmini.com is reasonable, but for some reason the site takes forever to load.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 10, 2022, 02:19:43 PM
Has this been going on for awhile?  Because I can't figure out why it's fast for me but slow for you all.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: MPlayle on November 10, 2022, 02:41:57 PM
It has been slow for a long time, but lately has gotten even slower.

It had been about 10 seconds to load a page, but now is more like 20-30 seconds for most page transition.  Loggin in can take up to 1 minute to respond.

I just ran a connectio speed test and get 200.0 Mbps download and 11.4 Mbps upload.  I do multiple Skype conferences per week and have no issues with that or any other websites.

Is there any IP address filtering/blocking turned on that may be slowing down access?  Maybe your IP or provider address is white-listed and going right through and the rest of us are getting scanned/filtered?

Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 10, 2022, 02:49:42 PM
What's a long time?  A week, month, year?
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 10, 2022, 02:54:20 PM
The other thing with the ip address being a cause is I use different ones literally all around the world and in all 50 states, yet no slowing for me.  I can get the pages to load pretty good even when I'm limited to 2g speeds.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: Brit_in_TX on November 10, 2022, 03:41:20 PM
Like Michael, it has been slow for me for some time. 

I ran a performance test (there are a bunch of free ones on the internet) and it looks like it is no one thing.

https://www.webpagetest.org/result/221110_AiDcEK_FCG/ (https://www.webpagetest.org/result/221110_AiDcEK_FCG/)

The main issue I can see from that report is the number of external references that delay the rendering of the site.  That maybe because they are old links or there is a performance limitation applied to that external link. For some of these it is taking 20 seconds from the request until the first byte is received. Which is the vast majority of the delay.

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 10, 2022, 03:59:39 PM
Just refreshed everyone's themes.  See if that works.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: ve9aa on November 10, 2022, 04:00:57 PM
VERY VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY SLOW............especially the last week
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: gr8kornholio on November 10, 2022, 04:16:16 PM
All the SLOW people, what are you using?   I saw a few Apple products mentioned by some.  All of my internet connectivity has been slow lately.   Not just this page.  For both my phone and iMac Pro.   Crazy thing is when i do a speed test it registers as 300+ mps.  Which for browsing should be lightning fast.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 10, 2022, 04:30:35 PM
I'm using a droid and my laptop is windows 11 with chrome.  Instantaneous opening for me.  I ran that speed test and got the 20 second hit thing too and noted the themes potential issue in the notes it gave.  I can call godaddy at some point but I'm pretty busy the next couple days.  I reset everyone's themes in an attempt before I take off out of here. 
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: MPlayle on November 10, 2022, 05:25:57 PM
For me, the forum site has been slow since the last round of "502" errors back in May or June.  It was tolerable and I figured it was related to whatever fixed the "502" errors when trying to log in.

This week it has been even slower than normal.

I have always been using Firefox as my browser (and I keep it updated).  For the forum, I have always left it on the default themes.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 10, 2022, 05:27:42 PM
That's what I was wondering if it was related to the 502 error thing we had awhile ago.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: MPlayle on November 10, 2022, 05:31:44 PM
I just tried with Safari as my backup browser and it is just as slow.

Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: MiniDave on November 10, 2022, 05:34:55 PM
I run Win 11 with Edge, I also run Firefox, it's no quicker on either.....just fYI
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: skmini on November 10, 2022, 06:21:10 PM
Just for fun, but I'm not sure if it helps or what you can do with the information, I opened up the Developer Tools in Chrome and took a look at the Network tab that provides some information on what's taking time.  DNS query takes no time, establishing the connection to the website takes no time, but it takes 22 seconds for the site to respond with the first file.  Actually downloading that file takes no time.

The first file is generated by index.php; it's almost like the forum itself is running really slowly, but I'm not sure why it's fast for you but really slow for the rest of us.  What happens if you load the site when you're not logged into it?

Other files (editor.css, editor.js?fin20) get a response much faster, but they aren't generated by index.php.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 11, 2022, 02:21:42 AM
Ok so just landed in Anchorage, 5g on my phone, logged out, and still fast as shit for me.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: dantest on November 11, 2022, 03:29:18 AM
Registered as a new user and using my laptop on the hotel wifi.  Still loads in a millisecond for me.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 11, 2022, 04:35:30 AM
Ok I updated some stuff and uninstalled all forum addon's and mods.  Now I need your feedback if it's fast or slow.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: ve9aa on November 11, 2022, 06:01:22 AM
Takes 20-40 seconds EACH TIME I click on a button. Whether that's just initially to the site, clicking on a post, replying,. etc.

VERY VERY slooooooooooooooooow

(I am faster even before my morning coffee-LOL!!!)

Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: skmini on November 11, 2022, 06:47:43 AM
Yeah, it's still around 22 seconds for that first file.  I disabled the cache on my browser and it's still just the response on the first file that's slow, everything else is fast.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 11, 2022, 06:49:35 AM
I'm digging through this trying to narrow it down, although I still don't understand why I don't have any issues.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: tmsmini on November 11, 2022, 08:19:59 AM
I think it must be GoDaddy filtering or scanning of some kind.
I just got this message after 20 seconds or so. I just closed the browser and tried again, but before i logged in I noticed I was listed as logged in on the main page in whois online
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: MPlayle on November 11, 2022, 09:15:04 AM
No change is speeds - still very slow even in the fully stripped down mode.

I did notice the "fully stripped down" mode does not always keep me logged in when going from one page to another.

Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: Brit_in_TX on November 11, 2022, 11:24:39 AM
Hope you find this helpful.  I spent some time digging into the previous link I provided that tested the webpage.

(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=2764)

In rows 4-12, these are processes that stop the page rendering and are causing the initial 22647ms delay (in row 3).  All of these are .css and .js components that may have some form of external interface, all these are taking between 22 and 24 seconds to process. Which means the first byte delivery is very long, once the first byte is received the time is back to normal.

This could be web server performance or could be an external link that is slowing things down.  Are you seeing issue with performance on the server side?

Will try and do some more digging into the logs over the weekend.



Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 11, 2022, 02:10:14 PM
Yeah it's the index.php file.  Not having much luck figuring out what the cause is yet.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: tsumini on November 11, 2022, 03:35:02 PM
Really slow.

Get this message and it stalls.
The connection to restorationmini.com is not secure
You are seeing this warning because this site does not support HTTPS. Learn more
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: MiniDave on November 11, 2022, 03:41:08 PM
I wouldn't call it fast, but it's way better than it was.....still seems like there's a delay before it processes the page request,, but then it loads instantly
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 11, 2022, 03:41:26 PM
I cleared my cashe and cookies and now it runs piss poor slow for me. 
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 11, 2022, 03:44:32 PM
Well now it's back to instant fast. 
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 11, 2022, 04:06:59 PM
Please try this and tell me how quickly it loads.  https://www.restorationmini.com/testforum/index.php

The website speed test says 11 seconds but it loads instantly for me. 
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: MPlayle on November 11, 2022, 04:16:19 PM
MUCH better!!

Whatever you did this last effort is a vast improvement. 

I used my regular bookmark to the forum and everything seems to be loading nicely: about 8 seconds for normal page transfers, and about 15 seconds for a login verification.  That is a great improvement over the 22-25 seconds for normal page transfers and 65 seconds for a login verification I had been experiencing.


Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 11, 2022, 04:23:21 PM
Well don't hold  your breath lol.  I was on the phone with Godaddy and it's not the server, it is indeed the forum software/whatever jumbled up crap I have on the server.   They ran some stuff and looks like knocked out my redirect from restorationmini to the forum.  So I'm fumbling around trying to set that back up.  This version of the forum is the last one there is and the latest forum software requires some full install that I'm not willing to do right now.  Not that it would make anything better speed wise anyways.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: tsumini on November 11, 2022, 04:32:32 PM
I get 8-9 seconds response time. I had to turn off "Secure sites only" though.
Your secure test forum (HTTPS) did the same 8-9 seconds.
Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: ve9aa on November 11, 2022, 04:33:48 PM
Dan,

It's been about 25-40 seconds here the last few days and now it's 10-15seconds on most clicks.

FYI

Keep at 'r


Title: Re: Site loading slower than normal?
Post by: 94touring on November 11, 2022, 05:28:48 PM
Alright who wants to take over this project that knows what they're doing?  I can give you all the login credentials and you can take it from there.  This is as fast as I know how to make it.