My week of tire research has come to an end and purchase. Merlin/Justin told me of a company called American Racer that carries 10s. Went to their website and didn't have much luck but found what I was looking for on their catalog. They have a vintage mini tire #70281 that's a "race" tire in one of the harder compounds for asphault thats 18.6 in diameter 6 inches wide by 10 inches. Similar to the dunlop miglia tires that cost $200 each! These were $71.90 each. Also weigh in at 10.5lbs vs 11.7 for 008's. Pic of the tread pattern as well.
That should do nicely.
That is the most generic tread pattern I have ever seen! ;D
So is a harder race compound tire sort of like like a soft road tire compound?
They also explicitly state "illegal for street or highway use".
Coupled with that very generic tread pattern, I would be cautious about using them on a street car.
At least the Yoko A008's are a DOT street tire.
Do you have a local distributor for them? Otherwise, you still have a shipping cost to add in.
Who makes them?
Bruce, I would imagine so. Maybe comparable to a032r in compound?
Michael, not really concerned with legalities. If it's good enough to thrash on a track I'm sure a spirited drive in the country will do just fine. Have no plans to drive in a monsoon and wouldn't sue if I blew out a tire and crashed accidently.
Quote from: MiniDave on January 30, 2018, 11:35:20 AM
Who makes them?
American Racer. I called the Texas distributor to place the order.
They called back with the shipping cost. $67 in 2 boxes of 2, three day delivery.
Edit: quote on 4 yokos from the UK to my door was $82 from minispares
Do you have a shop nearby that can M&B them?
I'm sure I can find someone. Also speaking with Force Racing on their wheels, they are apparantly easier to mount 10s. Something to do with lip thicknesses I believe. I know where I have taken 10s to get balanced. In fact I think they mounted 10s for Vikram.
For M&B check with any shops that work on the larger side by side ATV's.
That's a good idea as well 77.gif
Quote from: 94touring on January 30, 2018, 12:48:34 PM
I'm sure I can find someone. Also speaking with Force Racing on their wheels, they are apparantly easier to mount 10s. Something to do with lip thicknesses I believe. I know where I have taken 10s to get balanced. In fact I think they mounted 10s for Vikram.
Yup, pep boys
I thought it was Robertson tire? Pep boys is clear in Tulsa unless Bartlesville has one I don't know about 8.gif
Sorry, I got my names mixed up! It was Tate Boys in Bartlesville. I remember it cost next to nothing for all 4
That's the one. I know where it is but never rememebr names.
Every once in a while I would toss my full slicks on my 550HP RX-7 and go out and terrorize the locals on the roads. ;D
When we had an Autocross in town I would put the slicks on the night before and drive to and from the event on them.
One event, it started to rain, I had to drive back about 10 miles in the rain on full on slicks.
I have Autocrossed in the rain on these slicks and they would aquaplane a little but nothing crazy so I thought I would be good to go.
I was soooooo wrong... seems certain roads were worse than others, I never really grasped what was causing the big problems, something to do with the pitch.
Some roads it was like being at the AX others, you may as well have put me on ice with the slicks. I could barely go 20 MPH.
That was the last time I drove to an event on the slicks but NOT the last time I strapped them on for some sunny day fun on the streets.
I was an Urban Outlaw long before Magnus Walker dreamed it up. ;D
http://www.urbanoutlawshop.com/
When you head to the Tail of the Dragon if you look around the parking lot at the Dragons Lair (Gas Station) you will see some pretty sweet street machines parked around. I was always tempted to bring some fun tires up there with me, the 700 mile road trip to get there was prohibitive. I toyed with packing my AX rims and tires in the back of the car and changing to them when I got there but never did.
I remember looking at some nice S2000's in the lot, we saw them on the Dragon and they were flying. I looked down at their tires and they were running Kumho Victoracers, technically a DOT tire but most say that while trying to hold back laughter.
I used to run my Victo's as street tires on my RX7 until I got tired of replacing them every 3K miles. They did fine in the rain and on wet roads, Dan you will be fine with those tires you are getting especially if you do not plan on driving on them much.
Victoracer threads these are brand new and not shaved either.
(http://derfotohof.net/autos/tires/kumho/v700_so_new_600.jpg)
Just so everyone knows this will be on a weekend warrior toy. Long trips will likely end up tossing on standard wheels and tires.
Quote from: 94touring on January 31, 2018, 06:37:07 PM
Just so everyone knows this will be on a weekend warrior toy. Long trips will likely end up tossing on standard wheels and tires.
You are going to die.
Lol! I'm half tempted to go slicks on the rx7. I get no traction through 3rd as is.
According to Guessworks chart, you should be turning about 4500 @70 mph
Is that at the 18.6 and 344 gears?
Yes
Tires came in. The G pattern was a bit misleading but they have grooves regardless. Rubber is definetly soft, about how I recall the a032s. Has the 70281 painted on the tire but also goes by j13yl. Weight on the kitchen scale is 10.8lbs. Edit: kitchen scale was kind of hard to get an accurate reading due to size of tire vs scale. Ended up putting all 4 on a bathroom scale, both by themselves and with tires on each arm lol. Got an average of 10.35lbs after many weighing attempts and variations.
Tire comparison pic! :-\
That looks like a huge difference. Is the A008 is mounted on a wheel?
Yeah those are mounted. True test will be when I mount these tires.
Quote from: MPlayle on January 30, 2018, 10:49:45 AM
At least the Yoko A008's are a DOT street tire.
My 10" Yoko Advan 032R are
not DOT street legal. I understand it's because they lack anti-hydroplaning grooves around the circumference of the tire. However, I've heard several Mini owners say the 032Rs
are street legal. My tires are just over 3 years old and I assumed that the new 032Rs must have added anti-hydroplaning grooves, but Yokohama's website shows the old style tread pattern. What's up with that?
I'm assuming these are because they're bias ply. I'm sure the grooving plays a factor too.
Quote from: 94touring on February 22, 2018, 04:50:45 AM
I'm assuming these are because they're bias ply. I'm sure the grooving plays a factor too.
Nope. My 032Rs are steel belted radials, but they lack the anti-hydroplaning grove that I understood was keeping them from being road legal. But the latest 032Rs are legal, still w/o the groove? I'm confused.
I've put a few thousand miles on these tires now. Driven all over on them this month too. Half of my driving has been spirited, the other half a combination of around town and cruising at 75mph to my shop. Also have a good amount of wet road to heavy rain driving on them. Rears have shown no sign of wear. Fronts have some wear comparatively when using a gauge to read depth, but not even close to being worn down or needing rotating at this point in time. They grip like no one's business and only break loose from a stop when the roads are wet. Hydroplaning hasn't been an issue. For sure will buy again.