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Title: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on November 19, 2014, 05:36:05 PM
Being as I am in the planning stage to drive 5500+ miles RT to MMW2015. I will be making mods to the mini to hopefully make for a pleasant outing. The first mod is a pair of new seats. Not quite "race" seats despite the look. Fully reclining with good leg and side support. They will also come in handy for those spirited drives. They came off Craigslist from a stalled Honda project. Still wrapped in bubble wrap after 10 years. Material and foam is in as new condition.  4.gif Need to build/modify mounting stuff to get the seat angle I want. The front of the seat up a good bit higher than the rear for the extra leg support. Extra points that they already match the interior.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on November 19, 2014, 05:54:44 PM
Very nice!  Is this your longest drive in a mini?  What tools and spares are you bringing?   
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on November 19, 2014, 07:10:09 PM
By far the longest. Till now I have done 5 days in a row of 150 miles of driving. That was all mountain driving. 71.gif This trip will be 99% freeway.

Still building the list of spares and tools. Hope to have really gone through the car beforehand. One of the good things is I don't have any time restraints on the travel.
Do not want to over pack and load the car down.

I do plan on at least one 2 day practice drive before then. A trip down to Florida to visit a long time friend. That will get me an 8 hour day down and back to see how it works for me.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on November 19, 2014, 07:24:23 PM
Seems like half of my x country drives all involved mechanical work lol.  Even flur required adjusting the fan belt at midnight in sub freezing temps.  Take lots of pictures and enjoy the adventure.   Hope to see you.  And if you have room if you make it to Tulsa, I have 4 10" steelies with very new looking 008's mounted with your name on them.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: sparetimetoys on November 21, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
Back in my 914 Porsche days the club had a members only protected list of folks names and contact info all over the US that had parts or tools to use if you broke down close to them.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on November 21, 2014, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: sparetimetoys on November 21, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
Back in my 914 Porsche days the club had a members only protected list of folks names and contact info all over the US that had parts or tools to use if you broke down close to them.

Good idea!
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on January 02, 2015, 11:58:09 PM
One of the things I did to my Clubby to make it more roadable was change the diff ratio to the 2:76....I was concerned at first whether it would pull hills and freeway speed well with only a 1275, but I've been really happy with it. With the 3:44's I was turning 4500 @ 65 mph, now it turns 3500 @ 75 mph and just cruises...perfect for those long hauls across the midwest and western states.

I agree with changing the seats too, that looks like a fantastic deal on those seats...

Other than that, I'd suggest taking at least one or two extra tires, even if un-mounted.

For spares, extra oil and coolant might be obvious, extra oil filter, valve cover gasket, thermostat, fan belt, plugs, points if you still run them, set of wiper blades, some extra wire and connectors, brake fluid, tie straps, duct tape. If you're not 100% sure about them, a set of front and rear wheel bearings and seals and grease, maybe a inner and outer boot kit....things like that are hard to come by on the road but don't take up a lot of space in the car. Tools might be the harder (and heavier) part to figure out.....
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on January 26, 2015, 11:54:58 AM
As I have a sump guard installed oil changes have always been messy. To help with that I have had the drain plug drilled out and tapped for a Fumoto drain valve. I think this one may be the smallest one they make (F124), they do not make a direct fit any longer. Does not need to be any larger as the inside of the drain plug is not large anyway. Now I can hook a hose to the valve and flip the lever and direct it to the catch pan.

I just got the seat sliders in so that project is next.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on January 26, 2015, 05:19:30 PM
Man that's slick.  I like that idea a lot.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on March 17, 2015, 11:29:29 AM
Latest update. Changed the battery last year and thought a new cable may be good. I got 2/0 marine grade cable. Did not pay attention to what size the cable really is. 5/8" od. Too large to fit under the floor so ran it inside. On the engine end I ran it to a large terminal block. I plan to update the fuse block and add some relays in the future so this will make it easier to tie in. Added a rear red fog light for bad weather driving for what it's worth. It's hard to read the gauges at night so ran an LED strip above the binnacle and added a dimmer to the power wire. The other round button is for my stock horn, the stalk horn button goes to my air horns.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 12, 2015, 07:17:49 AM
My try to stay cooler on the cross country drive. 12vdc bilge pump in a cooler. Double layer of foam camping pad glued together then routed out to hot glue hose in. Cooler sits in front of pass. seat, the handle will keep it from sliding forward. When I feel the need I just plug it in the power port under the dash. Put enough water in to cover bottom of pump, then fill the rest with ice. Hope it works as good as I envision. The cooler handle will come in handy as I will have to take the pad out when refilling so just hang it on the handle when rolling.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on June 12, 2015, 07:21:50 AM
Ha, you need a fan attached where the mirror is so blow the mister that is strung where the visors are.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 12, 2015, 07:23:39 AM
Quote from: 94touring on June 12, 2015, 07:21:50 AM
Ha, you need a fan attached where the mirror is so blow the mister that is strung where the visors are.

Just need to run a hose to just inside the side window to mist me while driving.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 12, 2015, 08:58:41 AM
Did you change your mind on the seats? Cause I see you still have your stock seats installed and the cooler looks like it was made to fit the stock seat too.

My biggest problem re:heat in the car is getting cool air to the footwells - there is absolutely no way to get air down there in my car.

Good news is this is supposed to be the coolest summer on record for many decades, so it might not be too bad going across the plains.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 12, 2015, 09:02:55 AM
Got the new seats installed and they are too restrictive for just cruising. The leg and back side bolsters do not leave any wiggle room. So they will be great for those spirited drives in the twisty roads.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 12, 2015, 09:05:07 AM


Might see if I can add a side scoop in the window opening to funnel air to the footwell area. Should not need much air just for movement to keep it from getting too hot down there.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 12, 2015, 10:28:11 AM
I can take the hose off that feeds the heater and just point it down at my feet.....it comes right off the right side fresh air vent.

I bought a pair of Miata seats off Craigslist for $50, really comfy and easy to install, although I did have to weld up some brackets. But once done they come out just like the factory seats, so it's 2 minutes to change back to the OEMs for a car show or local event.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on June 12, 2015, 10:50:19 AM
Hose to the heater to your feet is a good idea.  It will also help keep hot air from being pushed into the car from the heater.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 12, 2015, 11:16:11 AM
Too bad I do not have a outside vented heater. My car is from New Zealand so the heater was an afterthought.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 16, 2015, 08:35:59 AM
Quote from: 94touring on June 12, 2015, 10:50:19 AM
Hose to the heater to your feet is a good idea.  It will also help keep hot air from being pushed into the car from the heater.

You shouldn't be getting any heat from the heater if your shut off valve is good, right?

Willie, are you planning to drive at night or during the day? How long/how many miles will you try to go in a days driving? Have you mapped out your city/stops yet? You are planning to stay at motels along the route, right?

The longest drive I've done in Buzz was from Baltimore to KC in 2 days - a little over 1100 miles. I did Columbus to KC straight thru, I think that was about 700 miles in one day - that was a long damn day and as it was in March heat wasn't a factor - I would not recommend doing that many miles a day. Of course, I was only running 60 mph due to the gearing, I can easily do 70-75 now.......but even 500 miles/day means you'll be on the road 10 days, plus the event.

I think my largest concern on a long drive like this would be fuel stops, my tank is 7 gallons so I stop every 150 - 175 miles, I think I'd have to take a 5 gallon can with me just in case. It's not as much of an issue on the superslab, but once you get west of Denver it could get interesting.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on June 16, 2015, 09:30:33 AM
I leave my water valve open. 
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 16, 2015, 09:51:46 AM
For extra cooling?
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on June 16, 2015, 09:55:01 AM
Yep. 
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 16, 2015, 10:16:35 AM
I have maybe night stops planned out but that can change on how things are going and how I feel. Mix of hotels and others thru a site called "airbnb.com" that you can book a bedroom in someones house. Probably the daily average is 500 + or -. At the moment I am planning an overnight stop in Tulsa on the way up and another overnight stop on the return leg in Kansas City among others. The plan now is to drive during the day but if that is too hot then night driving it will be.

My last trip that I checked fuel mileage I got 35 mpg crusing at 70 on the superslab. So with the 7 gal tank I should be good, plus I will have a 2 gal gas can along.

How available is gas after Denver? I plan to bypass Denver by going up to I-80 to cross over to Salt Lake City, and then north from there. Return route is I-90 over to Sioux Falls then south thru Kansas City, Nashville to Atlanta.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on June 16, 2015, 10:19:46 AM
In my experience the further west the fewer gas stations there are.  I did one trip through New Mexico once and was very glad I had an extra few gallons in a can.  I simply couldn't make it to the next station a couple times.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 16, 2015, 10:21:11 AM
I don't think it will be a problem, but I could see some possible areas where it might be 200+ miles between stations, so a spare can of gas is a good idea. When I travel with Buzz, I usually start looking for gas at about 1/2 tank, and get really serious about it at 1/4....

Dan, that's why I added the extra heater core under the bumper on my Clubby, so far I haven't needed it but I also haven't driven any highway distance in 85-90* temps this summer yet.

When I was having hot running issues, turning on the heater helped at first but then the temp slowly climbed back up - I think I have that issue resolved now after I changed the water pump pulley to a smaller one, getting the pump moving more water.

Willie B, this is going to be an epic trip - I'm so jeaous! Less than a week till you hit the road now.  71.gif
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 16, 2015, 06:42:00 PM
New window sticker for the trip. So many ways you can read this.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on June 16, 2015, 07:23:21 PM
Cool.  Bring your drinking shoes. 
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: jedduh01 on June 17, 2015, 07:28:55 AM
Any thoughts for an add on cooling radiator ?

or atleast pack a few parts like core + clamps and hoses to pipe one in fast if needed-  I know its HOT this week and NEXT - I would NOT want to be worried about that - or / drive Stratight NORTH to Canada Cool- then take a left to the west coast! '
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 17, 2015, 09:24:43 AM
He already said if it's too hot he'll drive at night.......

I put an aux cooler on mine with a shut off valve, but haven't had to use it yet, but then I wasn't crossing the western plains on 100* days either.....

6 days and counting!

If you haven't already, get a Facebook page going, if you need help that's one of the quickest ways to marshal the troops. If you have one be sure to post it up here so we can all friend you and watch your progress - also, posting pics along the way is very easy with a smart phone and Facebook.

Do you have a Garmin too - I find them especially useful when driving in unfamiliar territory.

Also, you need a Passport to cross the border with Canada now and to get back into the states......
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on June 17, 2015, 10:09:57 AM
Heck no need for a garmin anymore if you have a smart phone.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 17, 2015, 10:53:00 AM
Yes and no......I find it easier to navigate with my Garmin since I have it mounted in easy view up on the windshield, and what if you're trying to make a phone call while navigating?

Lastly, where he's gonna be driving I can imagine there are large swaths of no cell coverage.....

Unless he has a Nokia. They have a navigation/maps app that's not dependent on cell coverage.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 17, 2015, 02:17:58 PM
Got a smartphone but will also take my gps, it does not take much room.

Not a facebook fan so I will just put photos up here. I will make a new message for them.

I have a heater core I got for extra cooling. Just have a hard time figuring where to mount it. Seem photos of others done. Maybe I need to have another look as it looks like it may be a might bit warm.

Got the spares packed and loaded. Now to find room for the tools and other stuff. Got a pile of shirts I had made to take and sell (I hope). Don't want the inside looking loaded for when it is parked at night.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on June 17, 2015, 02:36:20 PM
Years ago when I did my heater core setup I put it behind the grill kind of below the coil.  You can actually route the in and out lines directly from the heater valve.  Helps to flip the valve facing forward rather than make a U turn with the hose. 
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 17, 2015, 07:37:58 PM
True, it's unlikely you'll need the heater on this trip, except maybe going thru the higher elevations....
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 18, 2015, 11:41:16 AM
Figured out a mount for the extra cooling. Still have the heater core in the system too. You can also see my dollar store plastic pet dish distributor cover. Wonder if I need to do like the air cooled VW folks do and bump up the rear of the bonnet for the hot air to escape.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: 94touring on June 18, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
Nicely done. 
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 18, 2015, 01:53:53 PM
I know some people have had trouble with rain coming thru the grill and causing the engine to run poorly, but I've been thru some really fierce rainstorms with no issues......

Does your heater have to be turned on for the aux cooler too?

I did mine a little differently, I built a small take off block under the heater valve to the cooler, then put a ball valve in that line for colder weather. You can see it in this pic...this way my heater is independent of the aux cooler, but I do have to manually turn on the aux cooler. Since the Clubman front end is made differently, my aux cooler is under the front bumper....the orange handle is for the ball valve.

I don't think opening the rear edge of the hood will help, you want the airflow out thru the sides - thru the radiator......
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: jedduh01 on June 18, 2015, 02:39:46 PM
Quote from: Willie_B on June 18, 2015, 11:41:16 AM
Figured out a mount for the extra cooling. Still have the heater core in the system too. You can also see my dollar store plastic pet dish distributor cover. Wonder if I need to do like the air cooled VW folks do and bump up the rear of the bonnet for the hot air to escape.

Very nice- looks like the best mod overall - Keepin temps in check. THat will help.
Dont be afraid to just let it hang outside the car = all the kids are doing it! And your's will be functional!


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Looks like you simply Un Plumbed the Interior heater and plumbed this in its path . Effective for air flow and that capacity too. Can i ask what off the shelf item that is?

  Minimania forum had  some nice support for some people traveling  up CALI that had an issue- reach out if you need. Best of luck on the travels- Adventure of a Lifetime! 
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 19, 2015, 04:58:08 AM
Quote from: jedduh01 on June 18, 2015, 02:39:46 PM
Can i ask what off the shelf item that is?

   
Heater core info; Ready-Aire #2-522 398213, also has cross reference numbers on the box: NAPA 3377, 4 Seasons 94490, Everco 6269, Stant 90213, Murray 279162. The size is 8" wide  2" thick  12" tall with 3/4" water in/out. I cut the very end 3/4" part of the in/out to reduce it to 5/8" then got a brass reducer to get that down to 1/2" for the in car hose to the inside heater. Do not know what vehicle it was for as I was just size shopping.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 19, 2015, 12:16:53 PM
WillieB, will you start a new thread or up date here in this thread?
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 19, 2015, 01:05:38 PM
Quote from: MiniDave on June 19, 2015, 12:16:53 PM
WillieB, will you start a new thread or up date here in this thread?

When I hit the road I will start a new thread to keep up with me.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 20, 2015, 10:51:11 AM
The reason I suggested a Facebook page is that it's very easy to upload pics on the go from your Smartphone to FB, and it's easy for u to follow along too......

Good luck on the drive!

Will you go straight from Hot-Lanta to Tulsa, or stop overnight in Little Rock (about 500 miles) along the way?

I-35/I-135 north thru Kansas is a good road, but from I-70 north you're on 81 - a 2 lane - all the way to I-80. Still, I prefer travelling on 2 lane roads when I can. Once you hit I-80 it's straight all the way to Salt Lake, then it looks like I-84 almost to Seattle. Is that your route?
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Willie_B on June 20, 2015, 11:38:17 AM
First night stop will be in the Little Rock area. Then over to Tulsa. After Tulsa I will go up thru Wichita to I-70. 70 over a bit then cut up to I-80 on state 83. West thru Salt Lake City to I-84 up to I-86 to I-82 to Seattle.

Return I-90 to Sioux Falls SD, I-29 to Kansas City. I-70 thru St. Louis to I-64 to I-24 thru Nashville to Chattanoogo. I-75 home to Atlanta.

Too bad I don't have time for sight seeing. Will be passing lots of neat places but I would get in serious trouble stopping without my wife.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on June 20, 2015, 01:10:59 PM
Yeah, funny that - they don't want to go with you, but they don't want you to go without them!  ;D

My wife always tends to over pack when we do take a road trip - I have to keep reminding her that we are not traveling to deepest darkest Africa and there are Wal Marts all over the country and we can easily get any thing we need!

While I do appreciate her preparedness for any thing that might be needed along the way - I just get tired of loading and unloading it from the car every stop....

I think you're going to catch the weather perfectly - at least as far as it being dry....but it does look hot for most of your drive - low to mid 100's most of the way.....and they're even talking mid 90's for Abbotsford while you're there - so much for cool Canada.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Dmulder on September 20, 2015, 05:05:32 PM
Interested to hear how this turns out. I got now I get 40 mpg easy on the highway when cruising right at 70 mph.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: Dmulder on September 20, 2015, 05:15:23 PM
I also like the idea of a private club listing (maybe with some vetting of some kind) for long trips. I'm new to this game of mini's but I love mine.
Title: Re: Long haul mods
Post by: MiniDave on September 20, 2015, 07:59:06 PM
He's home, for the whole story look for his trip thread to MMW 2015, here.....

http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/index.php?topic=760.0 (http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/index.php?topic=760.0)