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General Discussion => The Lounge => Topic started by: MiniDave on May 05, 2022, 03:57:57 PM

Title: What the ????
Post by: MiniDave on May 05, 2022, 03:57:57 PM
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/car-owner-who-left-jeep-at-dealership-gets-sued-after-worker-dies-during-oil-change?fbclid=IwAR2mfSEAo3DeMLpS-kk-oGpzJ_O35ZaZWMRe2AqoD1jN_flmuxmtNHVyHHI

So a guy drops off his car at the dealer for an oil change, an unlicensed 19 yo  jumps in and starts it up (musta been a manual left in gear) and drives over his co-worker - killing him. So they're suing the owner of the Jeep?
Title: Re: What the ????
Post by: cstudep on May 05, 2022, 04:48:50 PM
um......ok. This makes absolutely no sense at all.
Title: Re: What the ????
Post by: BruceK on May 06, 2022, 08:10:04 AM
A lawyer, Steve Lehto  (who has a pretty interesting YouTube channel I like), discusses the case here.

Title: Re: What the ????
Post by: MiniDave on May 06, 2022, 09:10:11 AM
Steve didn't really add anything, did he?

So in his experience the problem is Michigan's insurance laws, forcing the plaintiff to sue the car owner rather than those who truly were responsible.

Still does NOT make any sense to me. No logic to this whatsoever.....

Everyone knows why they're not suing the 19 year old - he's 19, he doesn't have anything!
Title: Re: What the ????
Post by: tmsmini on May 06, 2022, 09:44:10 AM
There is a follow up article link in the original item:
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/why-a-jeep-owner-is-sued-after-dealership-employee-was-killed-during-oil-change (https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/why-a-jeep-owner-is-sued-after-dealership-employee-was-killed-during-oil-change)

Still seems crazy
Title: Re: What the ????
Post by: MiniDave on May 06, 2022, 10:17:53 AM
That article does lay it out better, wonder how this will affect businesses in Michigan in the near future? Would anyone want to hand their keys over to anyone else - ever?

I wonder if you could get the shop to sign over an indemnity form before you let them work on your car?

(Not bloody likely!)
Title: Re: What the ????
Post by: gr8kornholio on May 06, 2022, 10:39:38 AM
Aww the great American justice system.  Laws bent every way possible to push the blame on someone else so in the end the only winners are the lawyers.  Wonder if this is Michigan specific or if these type of laws are in every state.
Title: Re: What the ????
Post by: LarryLebel on May 06, 2022, 11:20:35 AM
The government insurance company in BC recently established no-fault car insurance because it was forking out $$$$ to lawyers in accident litigations. A bicycle rider who was hit by a car that ran a stop sign was recently charged almost $4K for his portion of the no-fault? accident.
Title: Re: What the ????
Post by: jeff10049 on May 07, 2022, 02:49:21 PM
Same around here A friend's daughter was hit by a guy running a stop sign in their neighborhood.
It is a blind intersection when coming from the direction she was driving so no way for her to see him coming until too late. Several people that live nearby provided statements that the guy always runs the stop and speeds they had also nearly been hit.  It totaled her car she was ok but the insurance wanted her to pay 25% for being 25% at fault?  How is one 25% at fault for driving along following the rules and getting hit by a driver that was speeding and failed to stop? She even had a dashcam showing her speed and the incident.  No way out of it they stuck to the 25% her father dropped all of his insurance with the company including business totaling about 5k per month in policy's and they acted as if they could care less.
Racketeering at its finest.
Title: Re: What the ????
Post by: Brit_in_TX on May 09, 2022, 06:36:14 AM
Feel I need to google what the laws in Texas are!
Title: Re: What the ????
Post by: MiniDave on May 09, 2022, 07:57:44 AM
How does no fault become 25% fault, or all not your fault but we're going after you anyway?

I think Kansas is a no fault state too - I think I also need to check!  8.gif