A good laugh if nothing else.
I live on acreage out of town love it, swore we would never be in a HOA again when we moved here and we wont but.
I only have two Neighbors that I can see and one of them makes me understand how HOA's get started, not that I would want one but the guy is nuts I hope he moves away.
So a cell tower is getting put in some where down the road. I went to the meetings about it and we won't even be able to see it. Its about a mile away from the closest house and will look like a tree if you do happen to see part of it.
But we all had the chance to voice our concerns or even say no, guess he missed all that like a year ago.
So now at the end of the road is a sign complaining about it how it devalues property :D
Just wait until you see his property the only thing in 3 miles of us that devalues property is his place, it's a total shit hole I wish their was a way I could make him clean it up.
His sign also mentions Tony our county commissioner a stand up guy.
Look at this mess I have no idea what all the tarps, ez up shelters, carpet on the ground, semi truck, junk cars, or umbrellas is all about.
Other neighbor , my side of shit neighbors fence and my front yard our places are nice.
Looks like several barrels of "unknown" contents, perhaps "hazardous wastes" to be investigated?
"Non-permitted" dump?
There would definitely be a few phone calls for inspectors on that one.
Maybe I should call the DEQ I have called the city they made him stop his endless yard sales , no one ever bought a thing anyway. But said there is no code in place to make him clean up his junk. Maybe the DEQ could do something I think the carpet is over his drain field that can't be good. But I don't know how you could ever get him to get rid of the rest of that crap I don't think it's breaking any laws...
(edit) Just did some research I guess because of the fact that it devalues my home and the other neighbor who may try and sell we could actually take it to court. I'll have to make some calls tomorrow it's really getting out of hand over there. I don't expect perfect that's why we live out away from people but that mess is painful to look at every time I drive by.
Just by the looks of the guys property and the writing on his sign he does not appear to be a very stable person.
We have one of those tree cel phone towers near my office, I will snap a pic, you have to really look for it to realize it is a cel phone tower.
Yup, he is the reason there are HOA's.
Yea he's not stable at all.
About two years ago he stopped me in the road to say that a dog we had a rottweiler rescue dog old with health issues, it was a very nice friendly dog.
Had busted through the fence the day before, he was afraid of it, it growled at him, he made a big deal about it.
He didn't have much to say when I told him the dog was put down two months ago, for hip problems and cancer and i'd be happy to show him the vet bill.
Why a person would even make that shit up is beyond me.
Quote from: jeff10049 on August 03, 2016, 09:51:06 PM
Yea he's not stable at all.
About two years ago he stopped me in the road to say that a dog we had a rottweiler rescue dog old with health issues, it was a very nice friendly dog.
Had busted through the fence the day before, he was afraid of it, it growled at him, he made a big deal about it.
He didn't have much to say when I told him the dog was put down two months ago, for hip problems and cancer and i'd be happy to show him the vet bill.
Why a person would even make that shit up is beyond me.
He sounds like a real asshole.
Correct me if I am wrong, you cannot randomly shoot these type of people, there these laws and things that stop that, right?
Damn laws.
Cel phone tower / tree
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That is one of the best executed tower/tree units I've seen. There were several along I-25 between Denver and Colorado Springs and none that looked that good.
yea that cel tower's pretty good few around here that you have to look for also.
And sadly yes Jim you're right about those damn laws.
Another good story he had was that the sheriff had his henchmen switch out the brake fluid in his truck for something different so he would crash and die, because he knows stuff ::)
Yeah stoopid laws.
The brake fluid thing has me rolling. He sounds certifiable.
Mike, that side road is the entrance to one of those snooty high end neighborhoods with lawyers doctors etc. in it, I am pretty sure they went ape shit when they were told there was going to be a tower at their entrance. I am pretty sure this was a no expense spared installation.
I somehow missed the install, then one day my eye jumped over there and thought, I do not remember such a tall tree being there, then realized what it was. I drive past this spot every day at least 2 times a day and have for 17 years.
Quote from: Jims5543 on August 05, 2016, 03:55:56 AM
I am pretty sure this was a no expense spared installation.
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Sure he did......
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"The brake fluid thing has me rolling. He sounds certifiable. "
Oh it gets better he got arrested for stealing news papers because they printed something he didn't like. He was driving around behind the delivery guy picking them up I was told.
Then the other neighbor was accused of killing his cat that he found dead and dried up under a junk car in his own yard, that cat had just went under and died thats all. But his story is the neighbor killed it and put it under the car, then threatened him with a gun when he confronted him about it.
The best one recently was he bought a headlight bulb for a used car he got, he then sold the car but before delivering it switched the bad headlight back in and went down to the parts store to return the good now used headlight got mad that they didn't want to take it back I heard all this from the counter guys at the store. All because the buyer didn't give him his asking price.
Everywhere you go in town if he dose business with them they have stories, Bi Mart actually had a store meeting about him and not to let him scam them on returns or beat them up on pricing.
Wait a minute the very best one almost forgot.
He called the cops on us because a friend down the street borrowed my riding mower and he saw him drive it back to my house and called it in because it's not street legal he called also it a atv racing down the road. The cop got their asked about a atv my friend said I bought the mower back cop laughed said he didn't care.
I was working on the classic mini we started talking cars. Neighbor is pacing back and forth other side of the fence fuming mad. Calls demands to talk to the cops superior who then calls the cop laughing so hard he can't hardly talk and says the neighbor called to complain that the officer is spending to much time at my house and that is giving us the chance to say bad things about him. :D best part is we never said a thing about him until that sparked a short conversation.
2 ways you could play this:
One, get the fuck out of there:
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Two, dream up ways to make him completely mental and think (more than he already does) that the world is coming for him.
I am a little drunk, but immediate thought, buy a bunch of dildo's and launch them onto his property when he is not home. Maybe some butt plugs too.
Buy a goat or sheep and put it behind his fence, again, when he is not there.
Give me time I can come up with more.
No, do not do this...............
Leave him alone - he hasn't cost you anything yet, if he does get the cops involved....
I say we hang em, then we kill him.
LOL JIM,
He really don't bother me much mostly we just laugh at him he has mental issues for sure and thats too bad, but no excuse for being a ass to people he knows what he's doing when it comes to that.
The only thing that upsets me is his mess but I can't see most of it from my place so whatever I just started the thread because of that sign, I couldn't stop laughing about it.
I'm careful what I wish for some people have worse neighbors
Jeff
The dog lady next door to me almost came to blows about 5 years ago, we have no spoken a word since, not even hello's out in front of our homes.
I detest her for many reasons but the biggest beef I have with her is her dogs.
Which are much better now. But still suck and it is not their fault, it is hers she is a lazy POS and those dogs do not deserve the life she gives them.
There was a time when they would be outside barking at 1 in the morning 3 in the morning 5 in the morning and all day long 7 days a week. She has been in fights over them with me and the neighbor on the other side.
When I found out Animal control can fine her for her unruly dogs, I started to report her, that brought on the big fight. See, she is the ex-president of our HOA. This is not acceptable me calling Animal control ON HER!!!
She now has someone renting from her that stays on top of the dogs.
She has been on disability for the entire 18 years I have lived next door to her. She can be HOA president and be all up everyones ass in the neighborhood about HOA shit, but she is not well enough to work and get a paycheck like normal people. She has to get checks. Her disability? Best I can tell she is a drunk that drinks about a case of beer (Bush Light blah!!) every 2 days and does not even know what time of day it is.
When I first moved in I was nice to her and quickly realized she was a person that just uses and abuses you. So I kept my distance form her.
I keep a dog zapper handy, whenever I am outside and they are barking at me I hit the button and it emits a painful noise for them. The barking stops, if she is not going to train them, than I am .
Everyone else around me is awesome, well, except for the HOA which attacks the nice homes and nothing changes with the POS Rental and abandoned house across the street.
I had a similar problem with my next door neighbor.....he had an enclosure that was about 10' X 4' on a concrete pad, and half of that was taken up by the dog house. His interactions with the dog consisted of putting food in it's bowl and patting it on the head once a day. Once in a while he would hose the dog crap off the concrete floor. The poor dog was bored, and would bark endlessly day and night. I asked several times for them to quiet the dog but to no avail, finally after several months I took them to court, where he proceeded to lie his ass off saying it was someone else's dog that was barking and so on. I'd never been to court before so I wasn't smart enough to brings pictures or even more damning - video......so the judge said absent of evidence he couldn't do anything.
My next move was to both get video and get the local animal control officer involved, that resulted in the dog getting fitted with a zap collar - which worked till the batteries went dead. it was almost funny how the dog would give a quiet test bark to see if the thing as working or not, and in short order it learned it wasn't and was soon in full song again.
After that I became very obvious with my video recording, standing at the fence at all hours of the day or night recording the dog barking, so after a few months I asked again would they please shut the dog up and I mentioned that I now had about 3 hours worth of video taken on a month's worth of days and nights to show the judge....the dog was then moved in with one of their grown kids and I finally could sleep again.
But that wasn't the end of the saga with them - my wife and I both wondered why they never took the dog in the house, and as she was on better terms with them I had sent her over to talk to them about the barking (it kept her awake too) and she saw that they were hoarders - there were boxes from floor to ceiling, with barely enough room to walk thru the house.
Shortly after that the old folks were moved to assisted living and the kids took 5 long dumpster loads of crap out of the house, along with holding numerous garage sales and having local charities come with trucks and haul stuff out of the house....it took months to get it all cleaned out. The house was sold to a nice young couple who do have a nice golden, but she's well trained and mostly stays inside.....
My point is Jeff's neighbor is obviously not right and needs help, maybe he has family that could be contacted? if not there are usually state agencies who will intervene.....but unless he does something egregious, I tend to leave them alone.
But I do not put up with dogs barking endlessly......
We had that too with him but he got to spend Thanksgiving day 3 years ago in jail 3 days total I think. Because someone reported him beating the dog to the point of seriously hurting it in his car in a store parking lot. He never got the dog back and I don't think he is allowed to have one again. I'm pretty sure he thinks we turned him in but we had nothing to do with it.
One advantage of living where we do the other neighbors are 10 plus acres away.
so someday when he moves, dies or gets committed hopefully someone will come in and clean the dump up it could actually be really nice. I would consider buying if it were really cheap to offset the cleanup cost.
It's a shame to see someone live like he does I don't think anybody really likes him.
To listen to him talk he is a constant victim everyone else is always out for him.
He used to own the property my place is on and he was given a few months to get it cleaned up by the guy that developed it and several more time extensions.
But to here him talk the developer is a asshole and he threw out his shoulder trying to get it done in a hurry blah blah blah poor me. Then how he helped him by cutting in the driveway and putting up the fence. (a condition of the sale developer will pay for)
he went and got a few bids for a professional built fence submitted them to the developer got a fat check then built a POS fence him self and wants a atta boy for it along with a poor me wrecked my shoulder on the fence too.
Of course EVERYBODY else is a liar and only his story is true.
This sums him up?
"and if you doubt my story is true, ... go ask the blind man, he saw it too!"
Speaking of hoa dues, the building I own property in just announced the board voted in a 20% hike on the dues. Now on 60 or 75 bucks a month that wouldn't be a big deal, but I own 2 properties that cost $1135 between the two of them as is. I predict by morning 400 home owners with pitch forks and torches. Unfortunately I can't raise holy hell till Monday.
Dan,
Also check the bylaws for the units. Sometimes there is a clause that limits how much the board can raise dues in any given time frame.
Oh I've read them, no mention of that. I'm gathering together a group of people to get this reversed. The only board member to vote no is a guy I respect very much and sent out a letter to work together to reverse it. He's a lawyer and a pretty smart guy, so we have that going for us.
$1135 a month for two condos???????
Jeez louise
That's why I will never live in a place where someone else can tell me I can't park in my own driveway and charge me money for the privilege.
I think I'm going to move to a small town (like Ramona) where a guy can do as he pleases but the big town is just a short drive away if I need something.
It's a lifestyle choice. The problem is they're hiking prices through the roof to where it stops making sense. It's not like they will be doing a major renovation and turning it into the Ritz-Carlton. My one bed condo when I first bought it was $390 a month. This includes ALL utilities, internet, cable, even insurance for everything but personal possessions. They even change my air filters for me. Now that same unit will be closer to $545. They need to fix elevators in our south building but fell short of getting enough votes for an assessment. I blame the board for this failure as there was ZERO communication about it. I didn't know till the vote was over. Would have cost everyone 1000 bucks to fix the 400k elevators. Payment plans could have been setup to assist those who couldn't afford it. So instead what they've done is again not communicated or even taken a vote and imposed a 20% increase indefinitely. This simply is an abuse of power and irresponsible of the board members who will make life hard on the fixed income seniors who reside there as well as make lending even more difficult than it already is. No buyers equals zero dues paid. It gives current owners and potential buyers a bad feeling for what these board members can do on a whim.
My friend Don owns a condo for his photography office and business, and for three years he was the condo board president - what a horrible job. They had to do an assessment for some problems that affected the whole complex and it was expensive, about $6K each (only 11 condos in the complex) and there were 2 or 3 absentee owners.
He also managed to lead a charge that got one problem renter out of the building, but it was a nasty fight.
Not for me.
But good luck on the coup!
Quote from: MiniDave on August 13, 2016, 11:45:50 AM
$1135 a month for two condos???????
Jeez louise
That's why I will never live in a place where someone else can tell me I can't park in my own driveway and charge me money for the privilege.
I think I'm going to move to a small town (like Ramona) where a guy can do as he pleases but the big town is just a short drive away if I need something.
Thats what we did despite our 1 neighbor it's great, and he's not so bad that he ruins it for us just pisses me off now and then.
I agree with Jeff, if I was on 5-10 acres, I would not G.A.F. what the other neighbors do.
I was very close to doing that and now suddenly I find myself looking at townhomes. FML.
My wife is on a "lets downsize our life" bender. I have one and only one demand. I want a 2 car garage do go find me a townhome with a 2 car garage and we can stay married.
a 2 car garage with heat and A/C! ;D
This townhouse I'm getting downtown has a 2 car garage. There are literally zero places downtown with a garage. As upsetting as this mismanagement is, this is still by far the most affordable place downtown. For example right now the only other option for buying property are new condos that were just built on the east end of downtown for 400-600k. The other option is buy in the condo outside the district 15 blocks away overlooking the river and pay 200-400k and pay $1400 a month in dues for a 2 bedroom. Those prices are insane. The dues on my townhouse are higher than I'd like but factoring in the mortgage I'm sitting at the equivalent of 275-300k and all utilities paid. I could buy a very nice house in a subdivision for that cash but I'd rather take a bullet to the head. I like walking anywhere I want to go, have a variety of non chain restaurants, fancy bars, coffee shops, music, art, events... The other option is the country, which I'm a big fan of as well. Till I get older and slow down I'm staying downtown. I rent my condo below market value as is and will have to raise rent. It still pays for the shop mortgage so at least I'm even there.
I thought you were living at the new shop site what did I miss?
Vikram has been living there while he restores his mini. I still stay downtown with a lady. Lady and I are buying a place together.
I can't wait for elections in January. I don't think they realize how this is going to play out.
While I support you completely in what you are doing, be careful what you wish for......remember my buddy Don, who wound up president of his condo association - 3 years of absolute hell!
Not sure I'd run necessarily but I will put these arrogant knuckleheads in their place.
Looks like he did some research on me anyways.
His name suits his comments....
Still he makes a good point, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the particles..... ;D
Ya lost me lol.
I see Daves point but disagree at the same time.
I have lived in my HOA for 18 years now and have attended exactly 0.0 meetings. To say I have no fucks to give would be an overstatement.
Mine has proven to be useless, and since our HOA fees are something like $200 a year, refer to second sentence.
Dan should not have to step in, he has enough going on in his life, normally HOA's are run by people that were unable to attain any position of authority in the real world so this is their moment to power trip. Typical HOA officers tend to be complete assholes high on the first position of power they attained since high school.
Dan's point is completely valid, how did monies get mismanaged to the point that they need to raise HOA rates so much at once. Typically, a condo association will hit everyone with a one time assessment when a huge unexpected repair comes along, like an elevator failing prematurely or a roof needing replacement sooner than budgeted for.
Sadly, many of these HOA's do not plan past the end of their nose and any unexpected repair puts them in a tailspin.
If utilities are included and prices are rising then it should be communicated to all owners what is going on, not only at the meeting but notices should be sent, communication, not everyone is sitting around waiting for the next HOA meeting so they can have their moment.
I envy Jeff, I will take his psycho neighbor anytime over mine, mostly be cause 10 acres separates them. Lots of land forgives lots of transgressions.
Jim, pretty much my sentiments exactly. I've been to 1 hoa meeting in 4 years. Till now I've cared 0. But now I'm blasting out emails and getting involved. What they're doing is wrong. The part that I found interesting in your reply was hoa leaders needing a position to power trip. I've found just about all of them have this arrogant prick attitude. They talk big but turn out to be pretty dim witted.
Yes they are dim witted power trippers for sure. I'm so happy we don't live in a HOA anymore we demanded to see their books once when they were fucking with us and they stopped instantly. The bylaws said any homeowner had a right to see the books and they got really scared.
Update: We took the hoa presidency. My girlfriend ran for the both of us since I travel so much. We ran a solid campaign. There were many cheese plates and box wine nights in the meeting room to talk with homeowners...and many battles between myself and a couple now ex hoa members. Even had the cops called on one of my guys going door to door handing out flyers.
Good luck!
I hope this doesn't become one of those "be careful what you wish for, you might just get it" things.
Glad you got to throw the bums out tho, well done.....
Could be but would hate to do nothing and never know.
Good, you'll do fine.
A little planning and good communication will make it all work out just fine.
Im thinking everyone is happy knowing they have a president with a clue.